

Krishnamurtis Notebook [Krishnamurti, Jiddu] on desertcart.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Krishnamurtis Notebook Review: A brilliant testimony but not a teaching - Krishnamurti's teachings hinge on the mystical experiences he underwent as a youth. K underwent "initiations" when he was young, and he experienced an ongoing "process" throughout the rest of his life. Those experiences are the key to his teachings. Without the key, the "pathless land" remains uninhabited. I don't think K comprehended the significance of those experiences, although they certainly altered his consciousness and were the basis of his spiritual life. To K, there was an "other" that was the source of his insights. References to the "other" can be found throughout his Notebook. This is a clue whose significance is elucidated in reference to his youthful out-of-body experiences with the Lord Maitreya. ___ Krishnamurti did not derive his "teaching" from reading his own books (or the books of others). Nor did he derive it from watching his own videos (or watching others). K was not born with it. In fact, according to the testimony of some, K was a rather moronic child with "a vacant mind." So where did his "teaching" come from? He certainly didn't teach the Theosophy in which he was raised. K underwent occult experiences as a youth in India, culminating in experiences he underwent in California. The occult "process" that had begun in him then continued throughout his life and served as a continual inspiration to him. Without those foundational experiences, K would have had nothing of his own to teach. But those foundational experiences remain unexamined and unexplained, even by K himself. This is why I regard K's "teaching" as "testimony," because as long as the basis of it remains a mystery he is really only testifying to its results rather than "teaching" it. If people could achieve those same foundational experiences by reading his books or watching his videos, then those books and videos would in fact constitute a teaching. Consider Copernicus. If a man asked Copernicus to teach him about the orbits of the planets, Copernicus would refer to a process of scientific observation and mathematics. The teaching of Copernicus would reside in the scientific process of observation and in mathematics, not in merely a conversational approach to the subject. If he merely stated that the Earth rotates around the Sun, his mere statement of the fact would not in itself constitute "proof" or even a "teaching" but merely his own simple testimony which would bear no greater weight (perhaps less weight) than the prevailing belief of the Church. Now consider Krishnamurti. He "taught" using ordinary conversational English. He did not use a specialized language (like mathematics) but instead confined himself to ordinary language with which he addressed ordinary people. The use of ordinary conversational language, in itself, can pose innumerable problems for accurately communicating on a subject as subtle as consciousness. For instance, what one person means by any given word (such as "awareness") is not necessarily what another person means by the word. (Krishnamurti was never very systematic or methodical with his use of words.) In addition to this, rather than employing the scientific method, K denounced the application of "method" and instead advocated "choiceless awareness." Specifically what "choiceless awareness" means is utterly subjective and dependent on whom you ask at any given time. In the absence of applying the scientific method, it is likely that you will merely presume that you are "choicelessly aware." The absence of the scientific method typically implies the presence of mistaken assumptions. K spent decades traveling the world to reach millions of ordinary people through his talks, books and videos. Did the millions of ordinary people who studied his "teaching" fail to understand it because of faults of their own, or was their lack of understanding the fault of K's "teaching"? After more than fifty years, if the millions of students of K's "teaching" failed to understand it, then what's the point of the teaching? Is it comparable to trying to teach calculus to a little child? That would be the fault of the teacher, not the student. But K's "teaching" is not a science, and so the question of why so many people failed to transform remains as unanswerable as the question of what it means to be "choicelessly aware." It remains as much a mystery as the means by which K himself arrived at his spiritual experience. When Einstein published his Theory of Relativity, there were relatively few people who were in a position to grasp it. Those few people were not special or lucky, they simply had the background (the science and mathematics required) to get it. It's a matter of science, not a matter of getting lucky. With K's "teaching," however, understanding is a matter of "getting lucky," as he himself admits. If learning a subject is a matter of luck, like winning at roulette, then I'd say the subject is not susceptible to being taught because to me teaching does not amount to a recommendation to get lucky. You can't teach how to get lucky. I regard Krishnamurti's collected works as brilliant testimony but not a teaching. There is no doubt in my mind that K was an extraordinary human being and that he possessed an extraordinary experience. What he talked about, and what he wrote about, constitutes a testimony. It can inspire. And it can also confuse. Without the scientific method, the likely result is in fact confusion and the absence of consistent results. Review: A fascinating journey into probably one of the most innocent brains - I admired him. I still admire him. When I first read about what happened in his life and what made Krishnamoorthi Krishnamoorthi, I loved him. This personal diary he wrote is such an insight into his mind , a mind that probably learned every philosophy but yet felt deceived at the end of the day. Was it the death of his brother? We don’t know for sure. But, his repeated references to meditation as a natural phenomenon as opposed to a practice sits polar opposite to any great texts on Meditation and at the same time, his views on what that meditation should do to you is right from the heart of all the Upanishads and probably any other stoic philosophy texts. He was blessed in a lot of ways, alas, he denies it but. He was cursed in a lot of ways, alas, he denies it but. In this denial, which he keeps pointing to, he lived a life that would be near to impossible for anyone who doesn’t have a solid understanding of all the philosophy he might have read, understood, practiced and lived. His tender heart was protected by his steely brain. He protected his tenderness with denial. He did not probably wanted anyone else to feel the pain his tender heart did, probably because he is so innocent that he believed everyone’s heart is tender. A noble human being, a beautiful soul and a learned man, although, if he is alive , he would not agree with the last statement.
| Best Sellers Rank | #718,686 in Books ( See Top 100 in Books ) #3,211 in Eastern Philosophy (Books) #3,598 in Meditation (Books) #5,238 in Spiritual Self-Help (Books) |
| Customer Reviews | 4.7 4.7 out of 5 stars (272) |
| Dimensions | 5 x 1.25 x 8 inches |
| ISBN-10 | 1888004630 |
| ISBN-13 | 978-1888004632 |
| Item Weight | 1.3 pounds |
| Language | English |
| Print length | 392 pages |
| Publication date | April 1, 2004 |
| Publisher | K Publications |
M**T
A brilliant testimony but not a teaching
Krishnamurti's teachings hinge on the mystical experiences he underwent as a youth. K underwent "initiations" when he was young, and he experienced an ongoing "process" throughout the rest of his life. Those experiences are the key to his teachings. Without the key, the "pathless land" remains uninhabited. I don't think K comprehended the significance of those experiences, although they certainly altered his consciousness and were the basis of his spiritual life. To K, there was an "other" that was the source of his insights. References to the "other" can be found throughout his Notebook. This is a clue whose significance is elucidated in reference to his youthful out-of-body experiences with the Lord Maitreya. ___ Krishnamurti did not derive his "teaching" from reading his own books (or the books of others). Nor did he derive it from watching his own videos (or watching others). K was not born with it. In fact, according to the testimony of some, K was a rather moronic child with "a vacant mind." So where did his "teaching" come from? He certainly didn't teach the Theosophy in which he was raised. K underwent occult experiences as a youth in India, culminating in experiences he underwent in California. The occult "process" that had begun in him then continued throughout his life and served as a continual inspiration to him. Without those foundational experiences, K would have had nothing of his own to teach. But those foundational experiences remain unexamined and unexplained, even by K himself. This is why I regard K's "teaching" as "testimony," because as long as the basis of it remains a mystery he is really only testifying to its results rather than "teaching" it. If people could achieve those same foundational experiences by reading his books or watching his videos, then those books and videos would in fact constitute a teaching. Consider Copernicus. If a man asked Copernicus to teach him about the orbits of the planets, Copernicus would refer to a process of scientific observation and mathematics. The teaching of Copernicus would reside in the scientific process of observation and in mathematics, not in merely a conversational approach to the subject. If he merely stated that the Earth rotates around the Sun, his mere statement of the fact would not in itself constitute "proof" or even a "teaching" but merely his own simple testimony which would bear no greater weight (perhaps less weight) than the prevailing belief of the Church. Now consider Krishnamurti. He "taught" using ordinary conversational English. He did not use a specialized language (like mathematics) but instead confined himself to ordinary language with which he addressed ordinary people. The use of ordinary conversational language, in itself, can pose innumerable problems for accurately communicating on a subject as subtle as consciousness. For instance, what one person means by any given word (such as "awareness") is not necessarily what another person means by the word. (Krishnamurti was never very systematic or methodical with his use of words.) In addition to this, rather than employing the scientific method, K denounced the application of "method" and instead advocated "choiceless awareness." Specifically what "choiceless awareness" means is utterly subjective and dependent on whom you ask at any given time. In the absence of applying the scientific method, it is likely that you will merely presume that you are "choicelessly aware." The absence of the scientific method typically implies the presence of mistaken assumptions. K spent decades traveling the world to reach millions of ordinary people through his talks, books and videos. Did the millions of ordinary people who studied his "teaching" fail to understand it because of faults of their own, or was their lack of understanding the fault of K's "teaching"? After more than fifty years, if the millions of students of K's "teaching" failed to understand it, then what's the point of the teaching? Is it comparable to trying to teach calculus to a little child? That would be the fault of the teacher, not the student. But K's "teaching" is not a science, and so the question of why so many people failed to transform remains as unanswerable as the question of what it means to be "choicelessly aware." It remains as much a mystery as the means by which K himself arrived at his spiritual experience. When Einstein published his Theory of Relativity, there were relatively few people who were in a position to grasp it. Those few people were not special or lucky, they simply had the background (the science and mathematics required) to get it. It's a matter of science, not a matter of getting lucky. With K's "teaching," however, understanding is a matter of "getting lucky," as he himself admits. If learning a subject is a matter of luck, like winning at roulette, then I'd say the subject is not susceptible to being taught because to me teaching does not amount to a recommendation to get lucky. You can't teach how to get lucky. I regard Krishnamurti's collected works as brilliant testimony but not a teaching. There is no doubt in my mind that K was an extraordinary human being and that he possessed an extraordinary experience. What he talked about, and what he wrote about, constitutes a testimony. It can inspire. And it can also confuse. Without the scientific method, the likely result is in fact confusion and the absence of consistent results.
K**I
A fascinating journey into probably one of the most innocent brains
I admired him. I still admire him. When I first read about what happened in his life and what made Krishnamoorthi Krishnamoorthi, I loved him. This personal diary he wrote is such an insight into his mind , a mind that probably learned every philosophy but yet felt deceived at the end of the day. Was it the death of his brother? We don’t know for sure. But, his repeated references to meditation as a natural phenomenon as opposed to a practice sits polar opposite to any great texts on Meditation and at the same time, his views on what that meditation should do to you is right from the heart of all the Upanishads and probably any other stoic philosophy texts. He was blessed in a lot of ways, alas, he denies it but. He was cursed in a lot of ways, alas, he denies it but. In this denial, which he keeps pointing to, he lived a life that would be near to impossible for anyone who doesn’t have a solid understanding of all the philosophy he might have read, understood, practiced and lived. His tender heart was protected by his steely brain. He protected his tenderness with denial. He did not probably wanted anyone else to feel the pain his tender heart did, probably because he is so innocent that he believed everyone’s heart is tender. A noble human being, a beautiful soul and a learned man, although, if he is alive , he would not agree with the last statement.
K**9
Krishnamurti's Notebook review
If Krishnamurti's writing resonates with you, this book is essential. It is a view into the nature of everything. Beautifully written, a must read for anyone with an interest in authentic meditation, yoga, Zen or true religion. This book is a treasure - I cannot believe it is out of print. I am also amazed at the number of meditation and yoga practitioners I meet that have never heard of J Krishnamurti. Check out [...] for free video/audio recordings.
R**I
GREAT
Great book. One of Krishnamurti classics. In depth discussions of many of the core elements of his teachings. Fantastic. Highly recommended. But read it with a grain of salt -- DO NOT BELIEVE what it says. EXAMINE it for yourself and find out if the things said are true or not. If they are you've found them first hand. If not, you can discard them. It takes patience if this is your first K book, to get familiar to the terminology and the approach...
D**E
A treasure
Subtle and not so subtle daily log of the energies and awareness. Intimate daily log. I have a log and was surprised at how similar they are. Energy shifts daily that are sustained while some come and go with just a mere attention shift - Huge dramatic shifts from stillness to non-object awareness and more. His words are unique to him and wonderful to read.
C**S
Life is ever changing moment to moment be in it instead of oblivious to it
A wee wonderful book and a different way into the mind of Krishnamurti. A little more accessible than the gatherings/talks he gave all so well. His passion for asking the kinds of obvious questions that most never ask themselves is contagious and certainly that kind of passion within my self has helped me better understand what I am and where the continual miseries that have plagued mankind for thousands of years begin. Best read in small bites.
M**M
pretty good. very poetic.
Pretty good. I would say that I like the poetic elements to this and I think it profound when he talks about "The benediction" . The only things I don't like is the constant repetition of themes thourgh. Out the book. The natural world, the benediction... lf you like something poetic you will like this. Buy it.
V**O
This book is an invitation to silence
This is not a normal book, but is instead a pointer to that which is beyond thought. Reading it, a little bit at a time, leads one to silence. I often read it before or after sitting meditation, and it helps by slicing away the constructs and concepts we use to define ourselves.
じ**ん
本人の書いた日記から、彼の苦労と知恵が伝わります
K**R
To read just a page or two and really attend to the words can slow the busy mind. What a gift this man was to the world
B**E
Um uns Verirrte wieder zu sich zu ziehen, streut uns das Nichts seine Sterne aus. Manches Funkeln erweist sich beim Näherkommen als Truglicht und hat bis dahin dennoch seine Funktion erfüllt. Nur wenige Sterne sind wirklich echt, haben wahre Masse, wahre Substanz. (Truglichter, Feuerwerk und Planeten gibt es hingegen zuhauf.) Krishnamurti ist unzweifelhaft einer dieser raren Sterne, deren Licht beim Näherkommen immer heller wird. Ein Mysterium, wie die Schwärze gleichzeitig immer schwärzer, die Leere immer leerer, die Weite immer weiter wird. Dieses Buch ist ein besonderer Diamant, weil es so absichtslos unmittelbar geschrieben ist. So geht keine Kraft verloren im Versuch zu vermitteln, wie es meinem Eindruck nach leider in den sonstigen Büchern oder Talks geschieht. Dies hier aber sind Tagebuchaufzeichnungen, mitten aus dem Zustand anhaltender Realisation heraus verfasst. Was für ein Ausnahme-Meister und gebenedeiter Weltenlehrer Krishnamurti war (und ist), das wird darin deutlich. Wir lesen mystische Schilderungen geistigen, körperlichen und naturhaften Erlebens. Von „the benediction“ , dem sich ständig auf ihn neu hienieder senkenden Segen. Oder auch von „the process“ , - einem tiefgreifenden, in Verbindung mit den Realisationen stehenden inneren Umbauprozess, welcher mit qualvollen, Krishnamurti bis zu seinem Tod begleitenden Kopfschmerzen einherging. Eingebettet darin ein sprudelnder Quell frischer Einsichten in Bewusstsein und Wahrheit, in Schönheit und Liebe, in Leben und Tod. Doch die immense Dichte und „Zeitlosigkeit“ der Aufzeichnungen machen es dem Verstand schwer: Nach einer Story oder auch Message sucht er vergeblich, also langweilt er sich. Die immer neuen Schilderungen von Glückseligkeit und Gnade empfindet er als inhaltslose Wiederholungen, so geht die ewig neue Frische, die in Schwärze getragene süße Unschuld des ewigen Jetzt an ihm vorbei. Denn dieses Buch ist eher ein energetisches Ereignis, eine Art Satsang. Eine Übertragung, bei der das Maß eigener Leere und Stille das Maß dessen bestimmt, was man zu (er-)fassen fähig ist. Für mich ist die Unmittelbarkeit von so viel Masse, Stille und Licht manchmal schwer auszuhalten. Ich brauche dann viele Pausen, lese es Abschnitt für Abschnitt. So kann es sinken und wirken. Ich bin sehr dankbar, auf diese Aufzeichnungen gestoßen zu sein!
M**Z
Life changer.....read it. Namaste!
M**S
Krisnamurti qui nous a quitté en Février 1986 à plus de 90 ans nous transporte dans un autre monde si tant est qu'il aurait cautionné ce genre de "projection". A coté de ses conférences, de ses livres, ce journal nous transmet cette bénédiction authentique et naturelle, cette communion intérieure et extérieure. Certains de ses livres - commentaires sur la vie, ou la révolution du silence par exemple - outre ses causeries témoignent de cette conscience et de cette fusion, ce journal s'y ajoute merveilleusement. K. est toujours vivant.
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