What's the difference between this model and the older model?

Not familiar with the older model but so far on four outings for a total of 22 boxes it has held it's shape and holds the box of shells firmly yet the box is still easily extracted. It is well constructed. My 2.5 inch web belt feeds through and the pouch slides easily on it.

Can you dump the ammo box into the pouch? Instead of having the box sitting in it?

Actually no. I tried it and there are slits in each bottom corner that allow shells to drop out. Just leave the shells in the box, fold back the top and sides and slide the whole box in. Works great for trap in that you don't have to keep count of rounds fired from a jumbled bunch. Just use one layer (5 rounds) and then advance stations.

How many 12 gauge shells will this fit loose? As in not in a box

It is designed for one box of 25 shells. They will fall out if you try to carry them loose not in the box. You would be better served with a pouch if you want to carry them loose. It's best application is for a round of trap which is 25 shells.....

Does this come with a belt?

No it does not come with a belt. Thank you and if i can help with anything else let me know.

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🎯 Elevate your shooting game with the Eliminator – never miss a shot or a moment!

BUILT TO LAST - Rugged molded frame resists wear and tear, ensuring your gear stays protected in any environment.
READY FOR ACTION - Securely carries a full box of shotgun shells for instant reloads on the range or field.
COMPETITION READY - Designed specifically for clay, trap, and skeet shooters who demand quick access and reliability.
COMPACT LIGHTWEIGHT - Slim 3x5.38x8 inch profile with ultra-lightweight design means no bulk, just pure performance.
HANDS FREE CONVENIENCE - Dual belt loops and D-rings keep your essentials like towels and safety glasses within arm’s reach.

The Allen Company Eliminator Shotgun Shell Carrier is a compact, durable pouch designed to hold a full standard box of shotgun shells plus extra loops for additional shells or choke tubes. Featuring a semi-rigid molded frame, dual belt loops, and D-rings for accessories, it’s optimized for competitive clay, trap, and skeet shooting. Lightweight and rugged, it offers quick access and reliable storage in any shooting environment.

Specifications

Color	Coffee/Copper
Brand	Allen Company
Material	Polyester
Product Dimensions	3"L x 5.38"W x 8"H
Item Weight	0.01 Ounces
Number Of Pockets	3
Closure Type	Drawstring
Pocket Description	Slip Pocket
Manufacturer	The Allen Company
Global Trade Identification Number	00026509008958
UPC	026509008958
Number of Compartments	2
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H	8.15 x 6.22 x 2.56 inches
Package Weight	0.12 Kilograms
Item Dimensions LxWxH	3 x 5.38 x 8 inches
Brand Name	Allen Company
Country of Origin	Malaysia
Warranty Description	1 year manufacturer
Model Name	Allen Company Shotgun Shell Pouch, Sporting Shotgun Shell Bag - Clay, Trap or Skeet Shooting Holder for Shotgun Shells - Eliminator Hard Molded: Tan
Suggested Users	unisex-adult
Number of Items	1
Part Number	8310
Style	Molded Pouch
Included Components	Product^Included Accessories
Size	Pack of 1

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